Day of Reflection, April 23, 2003

Concept:

  • In all regularly scheduled classes on April, 23, faculty  will be encouraged to use class time to explore the meaning and consequences of the war, considering what special obligations institutions of learning have to use their resources toward understanding such conflicts. Instructors are not required to alter their course content, but where appropriate, faculty are encouraged to discuss these issues with students in their classes, recognizing that within our community there will be a wide range of perspectives.”      Excerpt taken from email to UW community from David B. Thorud (Acting Provost)
  • Listing of events. (mostly in afternoon or evening of April, 23)
  • Many, if not all, of the students in this class will become scientists, computer scientists or engineers, and many will engage in technical research, or management of such research. Some may work on weapons-related research and development. Much of the time spent in all such careers is focused on solving specific technical problems, an often rewarding and engrossing enterprise. The aim in 121-3 is that you will learn about some of the fundamental laws of physics, and how to apply them to solve problems. Topics that are only touched on, but which are also of great importance, are the nature of the scientific method, the implications of the fact that all experiments lead to results with uncertainties, the fact that there are many things we do not understand, or only poorly understand, and the broader implications of scientific discoveries. The “day of reflection” is an opportunity to spend a little more time on these broader topics.
  • I intend to spend the last 20 minutes or so of class time on April 23rd reading some quotes concerning the broader implications of the scientific method and scientific discoveries. In particular, what approaches have scientists and engineers taken when it has been realized that scientific discoveries have negative as well as positive potential? Classic examples include the discovery that the energy in the nucleus can be released and harnessed (as we discussed a little in 121B when we studied special relativity); and the potentials of genetic engineering.
  • I will try and list the quotes I intend to read below, possibly along with some links. (These are not meant in any way to be exhaustive.)
  • If you wish to comment on a quote, or read one that you have found, or bring to our attention an interesting article or book, please let me know. Given that this is a large class, it will be hard to have a discussion, so I prefer to know the essence of comments in advance. I will also continue reading short quotes in future classes if this seems appropriate.
  • Just to be clear, I do not intend for this to be a discussion about the War in Iraq, a subject on which I have no expertise, and which is not directly related to the material in our class.

Quotes concerning the scientific method and the community of scientists

  • Richard Feynman on scientific knowledge. “Scientific knowledge is a body of statements of various degrees of certainty. Some of them are most unsure. Some of them are more nearly sure, but none of them is absolutely certain. In science, we take it for granted that it is perfectly possible to live and not know. It is not evident that most people realize that it’s true.” (quoted from “The Beat of a Different Drum”, J. Mehra, Oxford UP, p.551-2)
  • More from Feynman on the obligations of scientists. Our responsibility “as scientists, as citizens of a democracy, is to know the great value of a satisfactory philosophy of ignorance, the great progress that is the fruit of freedom of thought, to proclaim the value of this freedom, to teach how to doubt is not to be feared but to be welcomed and discussed, and to demand this freedom is our duty to all coming generations.” (Mehra, p. 553)
  • Stan Ulam was one of the “fathers of the H-bomb”. The following concerns the all encompassing nature of mathematics, which holds true also, I think, for many other scientific work.  “In many cases, mathematics is an escape from reality. The mathematician finds his own monastic niche and happiness in pursuits that are disconnected from external affairs. Some practice it as if using a drug. Chess sometimes plays a similar role. In their unhappiness over the events of this world, some immerse themselves in a kind of self-sufficiency in mathematics. (Some have engaged in it for this reason alone.) “ (“Adventures of a Mathematician”, Stanislaus Ulam (New York 1976).)

Quotes concerning atomic weapons by those involved in building them

  • The discoveries in nuclear physics in the 1930’s, and particular that of nuclear fission in 1939, led rapidly to the realization that one might be able to build nuclear reactors and bombs. (For reasons related to public relations, nuclear fission energy came to be called “atomic energy”, which is a confusing term, but one that we are stuck with.). For example, Enrico Fermi, when at Columbia University, NY, in 1939, said  You realize that one small fission bomb could destroy most of what you see outside?” (quoted in “Niels Bohr’s Times”, A. Pais, Oxford Univ. Press; p467).
  • In 1939 Albert Einstein sent a letter to President Roosevelt urging him to start an effort to build an atomic weapon. Einstein was very worried that German scientists were already doing this. After the World War II, it was discovered that the German effort did not proceed very far or very fast, and Einstein said “Had I known that the Germans would not succeed in producing an atomic bomb, I would not have lifted a finger.” (Niels Bohr’s Times”, p492). Parenthetically, it is of interest that, according to Pais, Einstein’s letter had no impact on Roosevelt. This conclusion differs from that given by Edward Teller in an interview quoted below. Roosevelt’s decision to start the project to build an atomic bomb was made two years later, in 1941, 2 months prior to America entering the war.
  • After the atomic bombs had been dropped on Hiroshima (August 6, 1945) and Nagasaki (August 9, 1945), Niels Bohr wrote an article entitled “Science and Society” for the Times of London, in which he argued for an “open world”, and in which he said: “The formidable pwer of destruction which has come within reach of man may become a mortal menace unless human society can adjust itself to the exigencies of the situation. Civilization is presented with a challenge more serious perhaps than ever before…We have reached the stage where the degree of security offered to the citizens of a nation by collective defense measures is entirely insufficient.. No control can be effective without free access to full scientific information and the granting of the opportunity of international supervision of all undertakings which, unless regulated, might become a source of disaster…The contribution which an agreement about this vital matter would make… can hardly be exaggerated.”  (Pais, p504)
  • In October, 1945, Robert Oppenheimer, who was director of the Los Alamos Laboratories during the development of atomic weapons, was awarded a certificate by the Secretary of War “for valuable services rendered to the Nation on work essential to the production of the Atomic Bomb, thereby contributing materially to the successful conclusion of World War II”. Oppenheimer responded with the following words “It is with appreciation…that I accept this…, for the men and women whose work and whose hearts have made it. It is our hope that in years to come we may look at this scroll, and all that it signifies, with pride.” “Today that pride must be tempered with a profound concern. If atomic bombs are to be added as new weapons to the arsenals of a warring world, or to the arsenals of nations preparing for war, then the time will come when  mankind will curse the names of Los Alamos and Hiroshima.”  (quoted from “Weapons and Hope”, Freeman Dyson, Harper and Row, p.16)
  • Another quote along the same lines is from an annex to a 1949 report from the Advisory Committee to the US Atomic Energy Commission (now Department of Energy) . The issue was whether to develop the fusion bomb (or “hydrogen bomb”). Enrico Fermi and Isidor Rabi said “The fact that no limits exist to the destructiveness of this weapon makes its very existence and the knowledge of its construction a danger to humanity as a whole. It is necessarily an evil thing considered in any light. For these reasons we believe it important for the President of the United States to tell the American public, and the world, that we think it wrong on fundamental ethical principles to initiate a program of development of such a weapon…” (Dyson, p.32)

 

  • Nevertheless, President Truman decided to go ahead with the development of the hydrogen bomb, in large part because of fears that the Soviet Union was doing so. There is a very interesting web site, containing transcripts from a PBS documentary concerning atomic weapons. The next two quotes are taken from this transcript. The Soviet weapons lab was, in the early 1950’s, making progress on their design for an H-bomb, while the US effort at Los Alamos was in trouble. It is interesting to listen to the thoughts of some of the Soviet physicists who were involved. The effort was taking place at a top-secret facility, on the grounds of a former monastery.
  • One of the Soviet Physicists, German A. Goncharov, describes the situation: “The conditions were fine, but what struck me as very unpleasant and weighed heavily on me for the first year was the realization that we were not allowed to leave the place even for a vacation. So, even during my vacations I couldn’t visit my parents and relatives, you see? That was a heavy burden and it simply tormented me at first. But the contact with Sakharov, Tamm, Zel’dovich quickly relieved some of the tension. I got involved in interesting, absorbing work.”
  • Sakharov, Tamm and Zel’dovich are famous physicists very well known for other research. Sakharov later became a leading dissident. But here is how he describes his mindset at the time: "We saw ourselves at the center of a great enterprise on which colossal resources were being expanded. We never questioned the vital importance of the work. And there were no distractions. The rest of the world was far, far away, somewhere beyond the two barbed wire fences."

 

  • In the US, one of the leading proponents of building weapons when they are technologically feasible has been Edward Teller. He was the other “father” of the H-bomb, and later of President Reagan’s Strategic Defense (or “Star Wars”) Initiative. A long interview with Teller can be found on this web site. The following are some quotes concerning Teller’s motivations.
  • “No one could have had a greater influence on me than Hitler......who made it entirely clear to me that one could not ignore politics, and very particularly one could not ignore the worst evils in politics.” (Teller, who was Jewish, emigrated from Germany to the US around the time of Hitler’s rise to power.)
  • Upon hearing from L. Szilard of the discovery that made it clear that an atomic weapon was possible, Teller realized that “the possibility that Hitler would get there first was entirely reality, because fission actually was discovered in Berlin in the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute.”
  • Szilard and Teller went to Princeton to urge Einstein to write the letter, mentioned above, to President Roosevelt. Later, in 1941, Teller was invited to a conference at which President Roosevelt spoke about atomic weapons. Teller recalls: “He talked about the fact that the time to fly from Europe to the American continent was not so great. That small nations are not secure, neither are big ones. That the scientists may be blamed for the horrible things that are happening but, said Roosevelt, "I am a pacifist, and you my friends are pacifists, but I am telling you, if you are not going to work on the instruments of war, freedom will be lost everywhere."
  • Teller sums up, returning to the subject of the Strategic Defense Initiative:I want to come back at the very end to what I have learned in life. That the future is uncertain. That indeed, what we say, what we do in each individual case, may move the whole world. And that puts an exceptional responsibility on our shoulders. We now know for a fact that there are good ways of defense against all kinds of rockets. The computer can now perform a billion individual computing acts per second, that is the reason why. The difficult task of preventing a rocket from reaching us, can be accomplished. There is every reason to believe that we can hit a bullet by a bullet. And that high technology, instead of merely producing bigger bangs, can produce now a defense by accuracy against the most dangerous kinds of attack.”
  • “As I told you, the future is uncertain. This means a lot of responsibility for all of us. I have been working on subjects whose development I firmly believe was unavoidable: atomic energy, atomic explosions, nuclear explosions, fusion research. No one could have prevented its coming. It came slowly and ineffectually in Germany because Heisenberg was, I realize now, completely and deeply opposed to it under the Nazis, even though he was a good German. In the Soviet Union, all this came without resistance. The answer is so obvious that I hardly dare to ask this question: What would have happened if Stalin got the hydrogen bomb, and we did not?” (It is a matter of great controversy whether Heisenberg opposed and somehow thwarted the German atomic bomb project, or whether the effort simply failed.)
  • “I think I had a little influence and, if I claim credit for anything, I think I should not claim credit for knowledge, but for courage. It was not easy to contradict the great majority of the scientists who were my only friends in a new country.”